Monday, December 17, 2007
Leopard
If you have a Mac and aren’t on Leopard yet, do yourself a huge favour and upgrade. If you don’t have a Mac, do yourself a huge favour and get one.
Man, this has got to be the best OS upgrade ever.
Man, this has got to be the best OS upgrade ever.
sidcarter — Dec 17, 2007 4:30:39 AM — # ↩
And I don't see any major improvements with Leopard that really warrant an upgrade, apart from Time machine and the other "aesthetic" changes.
Kiran Jonnalagadda — Dec 17, 2007 8:57:37 AM — # ↩
It's not been long enough to discuss stability, but I guess it's the typical .0 syndrome.
sidcarter — Dec 17, 2007 1:24:04 PM — # ↩
I am on 10.5.1 :)
fus — Dec 18, 2007 3:21:54 PM — # ↩
And as Jace said, the cosmetic changes alone are worth it.
Just for the autorecognition of addresses as map addresses and the show on map service, and the multitabbed dictionary/thesaurus/wikipedia version of the dictionary i'd more than gladly change
arucard2 — Dec 19, 2007 8:03:36 AM — # ↩
A reboot does seem to get things working. The past two days I have been seeing a new oddity, with the menubar drop down menu appearing in the middle of the screen. ah well! I guess I need to live with it. 10.4.11 killed my system.
I do not use the other cosmetic enhancements.
ashwinne — Dec 17, 2007 5:32:08 AM — # ↩
Now that's a cool userpic!
ashwinb — Dec 17, 2007 11:09:18 AM — # ↩
+1
mmk — Dec 17, 2007 6:07:13 AM — # ↩
Unfortunately it's going to be 10.4.6 for a while.
sidcarter — Dec 17, 2007 1:23:22 PM — # ↩
Stick with it if you don't care for the cosmetics. This Leopard has black unwanted spots.
Kiran Jonnalagadda — Dec 17, 2007 1:47:45 PM — # ↩
Just out of curiosity -- what's broken for you?
sidcarter — Dec 17, 2007 2:11:30 PM — # ↩
Crashes/hangs when using CS3 for a while.
Camino/Firefox/Safari hang or crash once in while. And all of these are native Intel Apps.
And at one point, my macbook would just boot into a blue screen (after a crash, of course). I had to reinstall Leopard. That's a first since I've started using Mac OS X.
Kiran Jonnalagadda — Dec 17, 2007 2:26:49 PM — # ↩
Do you happen to be using Unsanity's Application Enhancer? It's known to cause blue screen problems in Leopard.
I did a clean install (new HD) and asked Leopard to reimport everything from the old disk. It did, and I returned to the exact same working environment as I had before the upgrade. The only instability was caused by DoubleCommand, which too was fixed by upgrading it.
sidcarter — Dec 17, 2007 2:48:52 PM — # ↩
I had a lot of applications before I reinstalled, including Onyx. Didn't change anything using Onyx though.
Now, I only have the basic applications. And no, never installed the Application Enhancer.
abdulqabiz — Dec 17, 2007 4:59:30 PM — # ↩
Read the various post by Aral here:-
http://aralbalkan.com/category/leopard
He finally downgraded to Tiger... I bought Leopard installer around a month back but yet to upgrade, not sure I am gonna do it sooner.
-abdul
kingsly — Dec 17, 2007 9:13:37 AM — # ↩
This is the best OS "upgrade" ever.
sandy_tr — Dec 17, 2007 9:57:57 AM — # ↩
>>>If you don’t have a Mac, do yourself a huge favor and get one
This weekend I happened to walk in to an apple store in Forum Mall, Bangalore. When asked about the prices i got to know the high end Mac notebook cost about 80k. When I say high end I mean a 2.2 Ghz Processor with 1 Gb Ram and 160 Gb Hard Disk and a VGA camera built in. With the same 80k I can get the best off the shelf laptop that runs Windows Xp (Yes i know Vista sucks I love Xp).
But anyways I would still love to own a MAC some day, Give the current price I guess i can wait for some more time.
teemus — Dec 17, 2007 1:15:31 PM — # ↩
Repeat after me - Do not buy Apple products in India.
sandy_tr — Dec 17, 2007 1:38:41 PM — # ↩
Any other reason apart from the price, I do understand the price difference is huge considering the US and Indian Market, But any other factor that makes you say that?
Kiran Jonnalagadda — Dec 17, 2007 1:43:56 PM — # ↩
Apple offers international warranty on all portable devices (defined as any device that can operate without a power cord). Apple India has huge markup, particularly at the high end of the range, where it exceeds the cost of a one day trip to another country to buy a Mac.
You can also get good deals on eBay.in sometimes.
teemus — Dec 17, 2007 3:05:29 PM — # ↩
Nothing that I can think of. If you are obscenely rich, then it doesn't matter.
ext_38261 — Dec 17, 2007 1:46:43 PM — # ↩
On the whole, my experience has been nice, other than Firefox, which sucks now equally bad on both Windows and the Mac (uses up almost the same amount of memory and freezes up in the same manner; talk about being platform agnostic in terms of user experience suckage). More detailed version of that here: http://fatalerror.wordpress.com/2007/12/10/leopard-macbook-pro-first-impression-from-the-trenches/
That said, does Freemind freeze up on you, if you do use it all?
Kiran Jonnalagadda — Dec 17, 2007 1:53:16 PM — # ↩
ext_38261 — Dec 17, 2007 2:43:14 PM — # ↩
it just refuses to go beyond the splash screen for me, while Eclipse runs without cribbing, so it can't be a Java issue.
ext_38261 — Dec 17, 2007 3:06:29 PM — # ↩
tushar — Dec 17, 2007 10:35:00 PM — # ↩
Kiran Jonnalagadda — Dec 17, 2007 11:09:09 PM — # ↩
Post installation, however, Leopard asked if I'd like to re-import settings from the attached volume and proceeded to restore my working environment exactly as it was before (except for minor changes around /etc in smb.conf and postfix/main.cf).
Several sites around the web recommend turning off all InputManagers, APE haxies and SIMBL plugins before installation. APE in particular is incompatible with Leopard and known to be a leading cause of failed installs.
saiprasad — Dec 19, 2007 2:05:50 PM — # ↩
Few questions:
1. I guess installing new HDD for MacBook Pro requires you to remove the casing (unlike MacBooks) and that voids the warranty. Did you install the new HDD yourself or got it done by Apple?
2. Any specific reason you decided (initially) for 'Upgrade' rather than a clean install?
3. What application did you use to migrate the data from your clone? 'Migration Assistant' or is there something new in Leopard?
Kiran Jonnalagadda — Dec 19, 2007 2:45:44 PM — # ↩
I figured installation from scratch and restoration of my working environment would take far longer than I could effort, so planned an upgrade. Leopard's installer on first boot now asks if you'd like to restore settings from attached volumes or elsewhere. It handled everything and brought me back to the exact environment I had left with (but with the new OS interface).
shortindiangirl — Jan 7, 2008 6:28:26 AM — # ↩
Anonymous — Jan 7, 2008 7:58:31 PM — # ↩
What cosmetic improvements are so important that made you want to upgrade? I have been looking at Leopard for a while now and none of the improvements really matter to me that much.
In fact, I would go as far as saying the backup utility isn't that useful either (TimeMachine) as I simply use a weekly backup using SuperDuper! which works amazingly well using the incremental backup option.
Now, getting a new Mac gets you iLife. That's a bargain.
Kiran Jonnalagadda — Jan 8, 2008 9:15:41 AM — # ↩
Several. The Finder is finally usable, Stacks is great for the Downloads folder, Spaces is nice, X11 autolaunch is super, Spotlight actually works, Safari can search within the full text of its browsing history, Preview does the most common image touch-up functions I need, and that horrible brushed metal is fully gone.
There are more, but these are what come to mind immediately.
locks — Jan 10, 2008 4:38:49 AM — # ↩