Kiran Jonnalagadda’s Blog

Thursday, May 19, 2005

Make way for the new

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  chirag — May 19, 2005 6:17:11 PM — # ↩

  This is facinating stuff!!! :-O
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  deepsan — May 19, 2005 6:26:39 PM — # ↩

  AJAX, if you include the server also.
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    Kiran Jonnalagadda — May 19, 2005 6:35:30 PM — # ↩

    In this case, there is no server-side. It all runs out of a single page. You can save it to disk, load, and it'll still work. That's the nifty part.
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      deepsan — May 19, 2005 6:39:19 PM — # ↩

      True. Ajax is the new cool, is what I meant to say.
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  mansu — May 19, 2005 6:52:11 PM — # ↩

  Have seen this befor.
  but isn't this site too close to unreadable.
  I tried checking for some docs for a way to disable these edits.Esp. when i want to browse the site as a normal site.
  All i found was that the site cannot be disabled for editing, the security as of now will only prevent the user from editing on the server.
  Is there a way we can view this site as normal site?
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    Kiran Jonnalagadda — May 19, 2005 7:10:32 PM — # ↩

    From what I can make out, TiddlyWiki is meant to be a personal tasklist tool; not for read-only browsing or sharing on a public site.
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  swaroopch — May 19, 2005 7:05:36 PM — # ↩

  Honestly, I don't know how you're comparing the two.
  If you're talking about hype, yes, Javascript suddenly is the popular kid on the block.
  If you're talking about programming languages, well, Javascript is the only language that runs in a browser! So, comparing it to any other language would be unfair.
  
  My 2 cents ;)
  Swaroop
  www.swaroopch.info
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    Kiran Jonnalagadda — May 19, 2005 7:09:38 PM — # ↩

    I'm talking about what's cool (and useful) enough that it's worth taking the time to learn it.
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  tariquesani — May 20, 2005 11:44:02 AM — # ↩

  somewhere out there is phpTiddlyWiki - saves the stuff on the server if you want it to... pretty nifty
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    kaustubhhere — May 20, 2005 5:02:07 PM — # ↩

    Here
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  sriniram — May 20, 2005 11:57:49 AM — # ↩

  JavaScript was not cool in 1997, when it was the only language I knew well. It's not cool now. Object based programming language? Which idiot with a hole in the head came up with that? Wait, I don't need an answer, that was a rhetorical question.
  
  It's useful, and it's had a larger share of fame than it should have. It's a formally accepted standard, and it's free. But, please can't someone put it out of its misery?
  
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    thaths — May 20, 2005 1:05:17 PM — # ↩

    You've worn a suit too long that your tie has cut off the oxygen supply to your brain. You are unable to distinguish between Academic Cool (like SmallTalk) and Get Things Done Cool (like perl).
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      premshree — May 21, 2005 2:30:32 AM — # ↩

      I'm kinda surprised that you actually said that. There is no Academic Cool, nor is there a Get Things Done Cool. Yes, there probably _is_ a notion that language A Foo tends to be used in academia and language B Bar tends to accomplish stuff generally; associating a "cool" to either is incorrect.
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        thaths — May 21, 2005 9:24:50 AM — # ↩

        Obviously, you are not cool enough to see cool when it hits you. ;-)
        
        The point I am trying to make is that there are languages that people consider to be the epitome of well designed languages - smalltalk comes to mind - and frequently the academic sort of crowd waxes eloquent about how this well designed language and Michael Angelo's David are on par in terms of beauty. I would call that consider the well desgined language to be cool. And then there are workhorse languages - perl comes to mind - that organically grow into a beast like the Camel. Some people call that cool. In short - coolness lies on the eye of the beholder.
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    mannu — May 22, 2005 3:44:16 AM — # ↩

    Check out the ES4 proposal. The next version of JavaScript (2.0) as well as ActionScript will be based on this.
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  nome — May 24, 2005 12:06:55 AM — # ↩

  Languages are like religion
  Languages are like religions, programmers follow languages blindly. Some call their language awesome,
  other call their own better.
  
  What we fail to realize is that, languages are all nice,
  they serve only one purpose, to be able to realize the
  developers dreams of writing a good applications.
  
  My personal idea is to choose a language for job,
  not suite a job according to a language.
  
  The second thing is that I personally feel is that
  no body has tapped the complete potential of any language.
  Developers are lazy, when going gets tough they invent new things :P
  
  All flames >> /dev/null
  
  For those who understand the above command, its intentionally told to append.